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Ishamel 1
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Posted - 2008.02.27 14:35:00 -
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Don't mind the trolls, your post isn't too bad. You do have a bit of a misconception about the coalition though.
The various entitys within it all have their own agendas, most especially the 3 you mention (and don't forget -a- and mc can't stand each other). While the cap ship fleet you envision would be very impressive it would need a lot of support[i.e. bs] to a) combat the GBC support and b) take down the cyno-jammers. This is where goonswarm and other supposedly less formidable members of the coalition come in, but it is they who are turning up less (i will not speculate as to whether this is because their morale is broken, they are regrouping, or its all a ploy to get BoB out of cyno-jammed systems). Without high participation current game mechanics make taking a defended cyno-jammed system near impossible.
Also the coalition is without doubt goonswarms baby, they are the driving force behind it. If they are not up for it the rest of the coallition isn't going to bother. (a coalition assault on nol without goons would never happen, something which can't be said of any other alliance)
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Ishamel 1
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Posted - 2008.02.27 20:23:00 -
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 Originally by: Spaja Saist
RA did not steal a titan. The GMs gave it back.
So why did the GMs give it back if they didn't steal it?
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Ishamel 1
Omega Fleet Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.02.27 21:19:00 -
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Originally by: Sebea
Edited by: Sebea on 27/02/2008 21:12:49
Originally by: marakor
1. They must have stole it for the GM's to be able to give it back.
I suggest you learn how to read properly and check your own facts before you tell me to get my facts right.
here, i went back and found it for you, and included some relevant words posted by your illustrious self to help you along
hullshot?
As his post is almost the same as mine i would think he was making the same point. The fact the titan was given back doesn't alter the fact that RA stole it in the first place. The fact the theft was deemed unfair has nothing to do with it either way. The post he was answering said they didn't steal it, which they did. I really don't like the fact you are making me defend him btw.
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Ishamel 1
Omega Fleet Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.02.28 00:05:00 -
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Originally by: Sebea
This stems from an a statement i made telling you that the fact it was stolen was NOT the reason it was returned, and that even if you find it morally wrong, its within the realm of game mechanics to steal in EVE.
You see this where you are going wrong, he wasn't replying to you at all, he was clearly replying to the opp who said it wasn't stolen, it was given back. Unless that guy is your alt in which case u r an idiot.
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Ishamel 1
Omega Fleet Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.02.28 00:16:00 -
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Originally by: Sebea
Originally by: Ishamel 1
Edited by: Ishamel 1 on 28/02/2008 00:07:41
Originally by: Sebea
This stems from an a statement i made telling you that the fact it was stolen was NOT the reason it was returned, and that even if you find it morally wrong, its within the realm of game mechanics to steal in EVE.
You see this where you are going wrong, he wasn't replying to you at all, he was clearly replying to the guy above him who said it wasn't stolen, it was given back. Unless that guy is your alt in which case u r an idiot.
i couldnt let you defend me, i had to make myself wrong to liberate you from your shackles of defense.
i read the thread, read what he said in that post, and wanted to point out the obvious fact that it wasnt returned because it was stolen, but because a game mechanic was violated. If he'd have just clarified that point in his statement none of this would be here.
and no, i know its rare, but i've no "forum alts" to post with. tbh, thats chicken s**t
I am sorry but no-one could misinterpret what he said unless they wanted too, maybe if he hadn't quoted but really, u r just trolling. Even if taken out of context, whether he was saying it was returned because it was stolen is open to interpretation.
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Ishamel 1
Omega Fleet Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.02.28 00:22:00 -
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Originally by: Sebea
Edited by: Sebea on 28/02/2008 00:18:51
Originally by: marakor
words
so lets get the facts straight then shall we. I read all that.
1.)The honest truth is RA did in fact steal that titan. It was fully in their possession.
2.)The Titan was in fact returned to the original owner.
3.)The reason it was returned had NOTHING to do with the theft itself, but the manner in which it was stolen, as it violated a game mechanic.
The problem i had is marakor was making it sound like the theft itself was the reason it was returned, which is untrue. CCP will do nothing to return stolen items in this game unless it violates a game mechanic when the item in question is stolen.
He then proceeded to take the moral high ground saying theft is bad and all that, to which i actually agree with him (shocked, dont be). However, i am a man who also believes my morals are my business, and should not ever be interjected into an argument as any type of point for authority.
Still its 2 pages of forum s**t people have to read which is quite funny 
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Ishamel 1
Omega Fleet Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.02.28 00:27:00 -
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Originally by: marakor
Originally by: Sebea
Originally by: marakor
Why should i need to clarify anything when the posted conversation was right there to be read ffs.
If you had of read the entire thread as you claim you would have seen the context of what was being said and not needed to make your stupid and totaly off topic trolly post.
so lets get the facts straight then shall we. I read all that.
1.)The honest truth is RA did in fact steal that titan. It was fully in their possession. and im an idiot
2.)The Titan was in fact returned to the original owner. and im a moron
3.)The reason it was returned had NOTHING to do with the theft itself, but the manner in which it was stolen, as it violated a game mechanic a fact that if you read his posts marakor never actualy refers too game mechanics at all. and im still an idiot
The problem i had is marakor was actualy pointing out that all the posts RAGOON made about how BOB treated their pets was total hipocracy because of these facts about the titan theft. and im still stupid.
He then proceeded to take no moral high ground what so ever saying nothing about theft being bad and tried to stick to his original facts but i kept snipping a single sentance out and continued to look like a r*t*rd. and im still stupid
fixed
aww, and the tone had just improved too
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Ishamel 1
Omega Fleet Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.02.29 22:56:00 -
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Edited by: Ishamel 1 on 29/02/2008 23:00:45
Originally by: Hannobaal
Edited by: Hannobaal on 29/02/2008 22:08:44
Originally by: Commodore Gauss
Originally by: Junkie Beverage
^^ this is pretty much a textbook badpost ^^
dont post like this kids
^^^ This is a pretty much quality "poast", courtesy of your friendly neighborhood Goondiot. All criticism, no content. Keep it up!
As to the grid problems last night... I'm sure it affected both sides. However, as I can assume from the killboard links that a large part of the fighting went on at a Goon pos, it would stand to reason that grid issues would affect the attacker more than the defender. Pos guns never have a problem with grid issues.
Not really. We warped in from another POS as well. I accidently moved on to the second grid several times and had to warp out and warp back in. It was very annoying.
Oh, and the POS guns were all dead.
If they were all dead i claim haxploit cos they shot me. As the guy you are quoting figured it out from killboards you can assume some other people were maybe shot as well? Bit of a weird thing to say really.
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